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it depends, while the KC62 is much more expensive the SB1000 Pro can actually play louder because it is a larger subwoofer. What the KC62 will do is provide you with crazy amounts of extension out of a very small form factor and reasonable volumes. If you're looking to save some space, add some extension at reasonable volumes, and reduce the subs size then you will enjoy it but remember a big part of the cost for the KC62 is in the size. I still have my KC62 and continue to love it, it's a very special little sub :)

Hi bro, I bought the review sample so I still have the Rev3 :). Honestly I like them no matter what amp I have connected to them so it just depends what you have now and what you're looking for. The Celan Rev3 sound is sparkly/bright up top, do you want to keep that or reduce that? I think Billie with gold tubes is a great match or if you don't need the features the billie has then you can save some cash and go for the CHoco EMEI which is a purist piece and a little more refined sounding overall. If the EMEI is too warm for you then you can just use the +2 tabs on the Celan Rev3 :)

@@NemoPropaganda Hey, thanks for the reply. Yeah, i got them for $950 open box. Not a scratch on them. I thought I'd go for a new amp right away, but i like them with my vintage amps and some slightly less vintage ones. ;) I don't have anything new, so i guess I'm just curious. Thought you might have come across a great pairing. I know it's all subjective, but it was worth a shot. I haven't had an issue with them being too bright on +2 with any amp so far, but it's nice to have the option. I remember seeing a review of that choco amp. I'll keep it in mind for sure. I just realized, the Billie is a lot more than i remember, but it's the second version. I have to admit, it's probably close to what I'd come up with if i was designing something. They seem to know their shit. I know it's not truly audiophile, but i was thinking about the onkyo rz50. I've had them hooked up tp an older onkyo a/v amp for HT and they perform. They also sound great on my marantz 2245. Ah well, choices choices...

Hi bro, it depends what amp you currently have and how much you want to balance out the Kanta No1, with the gold tubes the billie will help compared to an amp that is neutral or clarity focused. I have a friend that uses the billie/gold tubes with his kanta no1 and likes it very much though his taste leans towards open/airy/bright. Personally I have a feeling the sound you are looking for will be with the CHoco Emei, it doesn't have any features like the Billie so maybe that's a deal breaker but its treble is a little more refined and a little darker and the Kanta can really benifit from that.

not all audio components sound good together or are compatible with eachother, I'd love to see more mfg get in front of this topic and help the end consumer not make mistakes.

@@NemoPropaganda Thanks for replying. An advertised "Warm vs. Cool" index would be a start.

I'm not sure if it would cause damage, I just took the mfg advice and didn't try it.

@@NemoPropaganda Yeah, I would play it safe too. Maybe it could just be an audible effect like distortion.

I think this is your first time seeing me review an integrated amp and you may not realize or know this channel is a side project, I am not a full time reviewer, my videos are shot in single takes, are unscripted, and I generally review the product based on how I personally use it. Nobody pays me to do this and I don't use affiliate links, this is all for fun and for free. I never review the preamp section of an integrated amp separately, it is not my area of expertise and we all know how lossy BT sounds, perfectly fine for when you wanna jam out while cleaning the house or something but you wouldn't use it for critical listening. So that only leaves the internal DAC, if its good or not is relative as it depends what you're comparing it to. Most gears internal dac is about on par with an external dac in the $100-$249 range and the differences are more a matter of taste and preference than performance. They are generally considered good enough. Integrated amp refers to the preamp and poweramp section being combined so I did review the integrated amp, I just don't cover every feature. My goal is to give you a general idea of the overall sound of a product.

sorry I didn't mention vinyl, I don't own any records or use vinyl personally, I think it's important to only stick to areas where I have experience.

is there a MK3 coming?

@@NemoPropaganda only Itai Azerad (Heaven 11) will know when it’s ready.

sorry my bro, me talking about vinyl would be me just making it all up lol, I don't know anything about the topic. The only thing I do know is it certainly can sound incredible when done right :)

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Deadalus doesn't list prices but I think that's outside of my wheelhouse, I'm guessing they're in that $20k category? As far as modright the stuff looks beautiful but also kinda pricey, I do review expensive amps sometimes but its not super common for me, hopefully in the future as I gain more experience :)

internal dac performance is gonna depend on what you're comparing it to, versus a computers sound card or your TV the billies internal dac is gonna be superior, versus an external dac like an Ares 12th-1 the Ares is gonna sound better. The most realistic example I can give you is my friend has a billie MK2 and uses a Cambridge MXN10 streamer and Focal Kanta No1 speakers, he prefers the Billies internal dac over the one inside the MXN10 streamer, hope that helps! Personally I used this amp with a bluesound node and Ares2 dac and all music was tidal hifi.

@@NemoPropaganda so you didn't give the internal dac a spin? Thanks for all the info though. Would probably do fine for me. Could of course upgrade to an external if at some point I felt the need

@@lsaideOK no I didn't personally use the bliies internal dac, I very rarely use the internal dac on a product. I did test the internal on the Pathos Inpol Remix but that was an optional $750 add on so I figured people would want to know if it was worth it or not but outside of rare situations like that it just takes up too much time. I spend about 10-30 hours of listening just assessing the sound of the amp itself, I can't do that with the internal dac also so with me what you get is someone who spends a crazy amount of time with the core product but at the expense of ignoring certain features. Narrowing my focus allows me to be 100% confident in the area I covered. Essentially I'd rather master one thing than be average at a few if that makes sense.

@@NemoPropaganda I can definitely see that! Good to know more about your process. Thanks for responding so thoroughly. Much appreciated!

it's been on my radar, I'm sure I'll check one out eventually.

Dayton makes great budget stuff but I don't think even they would claim it's on the same level as the billie amp or any other $2k amp.

value is not a universal truth, it is a personal truth, if you do not think it has value that is your truth and you are welcome to it but two people cannot have a vlue based discussion, it will not go anywhere, it's like arguing over food. Personally I hate cheesecake, maybe you like it, each opinion is real and true for the individual.

The H190 is better overall, costing more than double that's no surprise, more refinement in the treble, better low volume dynamics & detail, etc... As far as bass, both amps have plenty of power.

snake oil and snake hiss.... snakes are very audiophile animals.

honestly before I saw that on the website I did try it for about 30 minutes, I didn't notice any hiss but quickly disconnected the pair since I wasn't sure why they say not to do it and I didn't want to go against the mfg suggestion. Perhaps it's just a generalization but for that little 30 minutes session the dwx & billie were fine but I'm not going to recommend people do somethign the MFG says not to do incase it damages something :)

Based on my personal experience, if you managed to score a used Unico Primo Tube integrated amp made in Italy, you would be a happy camper. In particular with a little tube rolling with some PSVanes or NOS Mullards. The build quality is outstanding and they go used for about a grand. Plenty of bucks left over for a good DAC. I just recommended this to a friend on a budget and he raved after hearing the amp. Just my opinion. There is also a higher priced Segundo amp of similar but better quality for maybe two grand used.

I'm really trying to keep the comparisons down to 3, and honestly bro 100% truth, I just forgot about the CHoco, someone else asked about that too, refresh the page and there will be a pinned comment with that comparison.

@@NemoPropagandaSchiit happens man. 😁 And that comment was good enough for me anyway. Both of these are amazing deals IMO. ✌️

If you don't need any of the features of the billie like the dac, phono, pre-outs, etc... The CHoco being a purist piece will offer up more refinement than most amps around the same price. Depending on what speakers you have it connected to it can be a small or big differences. Using my Platimon for example the CHoco is a notable step up from the Billie, but using something like my S400 MK2 or Dynaudio Evoke 20 I would actually prefer the Billie amp so while technically the CHoco is better it also depends what speakers you plan to use. The billie is going to match well with a wide variety of speakers and I feel the CHoco is strongest with more detail focused speakers like Focal, Mon, B&W, Triangle, etc... Hope that helps.

@@NemoPropaganda it helps immensely! Tbh thanks to your comment I've selected my next upgrade! There's a used choco in my area for a discount! I'm upgrading my amp from a 1978 kenwood ka5700 (completely rebuilt). I'm excited!

@@amrittoor44 awesome!! You're gonna be shocked by the casework alone, what the CHoco gives you for it's price is pretty darn impressive :) It's one amp I really regret not buying for myself but I can't buy everything I like lol

​@@amrittoor44I wouldn't trust used gears

@@MasterofPlay7 please rethink that my friend.............90% of what i own is vintage..........including my 3 plasma tvs........a lot of my amps are 30 + years old...........nothing sounds like a great hafler amp..........the newest amp i own is a adcom gfa 5006..............yes you might not be into vintage but and that is great.........but you will save a ton of money.....yes you must have a great repair man for some maintenance............ one thing i do trust is nemo propaganda as he makes me want subwoofers..............because of him i now own REL subs..........you can trust used gears if you shop wise......

yeah I was bummed, I really wanted to try that combo lol, the website saying I couldn't just made me want to try it even more lol but I didn't.

@@NemoPropaganda audiophiliac said he loved the combination with the Zus lol, guess it worked hahah

thank you for the kind words sir!

barring major room issues you should be able to get most subs to play well enough to leave them alone for the most part but I get what you mean, accepting some songs simply don't have all that much bass helped me reduce my tinkering considerably.

I'm not familiar with Marantz, how about the new IotaVX amp?

@@NemoPropaganda would the emotiva basx ta2 be a good match? I have a ares 12-1 dac. Thank you

@@happosai-pl6pn I like the emotiva ta2 a lot especially with an ares dac. Emotiva sound is more detailed with a cool midrange so you will double down on the clarity, if that is the sound you are looking for then you will enjoy it. If you want something more tonally balanced with more warmth then you will not love that combination. Ares will add some warmth but perhaps not enough. I think TA2 Ares combo would be great for a speaker like the S400 MK2 and just okay for the Comete 40th.

the m106 uses a different tweeter, I have heard many people enjoy it :) of course you are correct, it is hard to find a system that plays everything with perfection.

I know what you mean, no I don't think it will do 20hz with extreme output but I also don't have a way to test that :( If you know of an easy way to test that I may consider it but I currently have a fulltime job and YT channel is just a side project for me so I can't add a process to my reviews that is time intensive.

@@NemoPropaganda understood. I was thinking a Umik-1, laptop and REW just for a baseline example of how it would measure in one of your rooms. Appreciate the response and the next one ✌🏼

I don't think a tekton review is likely to happen from any reviewer given the recent drama. Tekton seems to take issue to any criticism and seems to like threatening lawsuites. I do not wish to work with a company like that.

I don't think it's fair to criticize such old content. Very few people are the same as they were over 3 years ago. I understand not everyone checks the date on YT videos but I very rarely swear in anything made in the last 2 years.

oh man, I never heard the RP400m so I can't really comment on that but I know people like those speakers a lot too!

I have no idea my bro, maybe they were discontinued maybe audioadvice doesn't want to work with heco anymore or vice versa, I tried to get a straight answer from audioadvice but no luck, they just said they'd get back to me if there was an update.

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they do make a cute little combination together for sure :)

nice! hope you like it :)

@@NemoPropaganda - Thanks I'm sure they will out perform the SVS Prime Satellites I'm currently using as rear surrounds

what do you have now?

@@NemoPropaganda I am using the Neumi BS5. The ports are stuffed and they do sound great to my ears. It's always nice to see if I may be missing something in music/games with some kind of significant upgrade.

@@ItsElvis56 okay cool, I never heard that one but Erin from erinsaudiocorner said it was pretty darn good for the money.

@@NemoPropaganda I got the recommendation from him actually. I also saw your review on the Schiit Rekkr. They pair really well together for my desk setup.

@@ItsElvis56 happy to hear that!! I'm not sure the SVS Nano would be good with the rekkr though. The Nano has strong bass and the Rekkr can drive speakers with strong bass but if you don't have a good ear for distorition you could end up damaging the speaker if you try to push it too hard with the rekkr. Bass sucks up a lot of wattage and quickly!

that's hard for me to answer since I don't listen up close like that.

@@NemoPropaganda I'll be sitting about 5 to 6 feet away from a 42" oled TV in a 5.1 setup with a denon 3800. I'll be using the system for computer work but also HT movie watching.

hey what's up keith, I had those at one point, they're decent, I almost included them in the video but felt the Sony SSCS5 or Klipsch R50M on sale were a better buy and had a little fuller bass.

Well, in room and at reasonable volumes. I’m not saying it’ll crank 20hz at 110dB+ 😅